The Lost Boys of the FLDS
Posted by Heather on May 8, 2008
It’s been just over a month since the government raid on the polygamist Yearning For Zion Ranch in Eldorado, Texas, and I continue to be amazed at the appalling spectacle of the whole thing.
Obviously, the state government has bitten off a lot more than they can chew. The raid was poorly executed, ill-advised in the first place, and possibly illegal. But if I object to the raid at all, it’s because of the sloppy handling, not because I disagree with the state’s decision to investigate. Certainly not because of the Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints’ tearjerker Captive FLDS Children website and interviews featuring weeping mothers begging to see their children again.
It’s not that I’m unsympathetic—I never like to see children being taken away from their parents unless there is a darn good reason for it. And if the state felt that the children were in imminent danger of abuse, I think they should have taken the men away and left the women and children at the ranch while they investigated. But as impatient as I feel toward the Texas authorities, I confess that my pity for the FLDS parents is somewhat limited.
They’re working overtime to present themselves as law-abiding citizens who were peacefully practicing their religion before the bad old state came in and tore children and parents apart, but the FLDS was tearing families apart all by themselves long before the YFZ raid, and all in the name of their religion, too.
So, yes: go look at the pictures on their Captive FLDS Children site. Lots of mothers, most of whom were raised in the FLDS faith. Lots of children—boys and girls—also being raised in the faith. But how many FLDS men do you see? Not many, and it’s not just because of the raid.
The FLDS depends on an extremely lopsided male-to-female ratio to achieve the kind of polygamous marriages they’re known for. The YFZ Ranch is utterly typical of the sect. According to a CNN article:
Of the 463 children, 250 are girls and 213 are boys. Children 13 and younger are about evenly split — 197 girls and 196 boys — but there are only 17 boys aged 14 to 17, compared with the 53 girls in that age range.
So what do they do with the extra boys? Kick ‘em out.
It’s a well-documented practice among the FLDS: in order for older men to have their pick of young plural wives, they commonly excommunicate teenage boys—some as young as 13—for ridiculously minor infractions like listening to CDs, wearing short sleeves, or talking to girls. Hundreds of boys are being systematically exiled to a world they know nothing about, convinced they’re going to hell, and never allowed to see their mothers again. Many are so hopeless and confused that they turn to drugs, alcohol, or even self-harm. And small wonder why. Consider a passage from this article:
Abandoned by his family, faith, and community, Gideon Barlow arrived here an orphan from another world.
The freckle-faced 17-year-old said he was left to fend for himself last year after being forced out of Colorado City, Ariz., just over the [Utah] state line.
”I couldn’t see how my mom would let them do what they did to me,” he said.
When he tried to visit her on Mother’s Day, he said, she told him to stay away. When he begged to give her a present, she said she wanted nothing. ”I am dead to her now,” he said.
So, though I’m sure the FLDS women are sincere when they tell the media how badly they want their children back—what mother wouldn’t be?—I’d be a lot more sympathetic if these women were willing to go to the mat to protect their sons. Where are the mothers’ tears for those children?

May 8, 2008 at 8:46 am
This whole incident has left a bitter taste in my mouth.
May 8, 2008 at 11:48 am
I am so naive; I had no idea any of this went on. I vaguely knew there was some polygamy in certain places but just didn’t realize all that was involved. It’s just heart-breaking. I don’t know what is the best thing to do for all those kids, including the older boys who are forced out. I don’t think anyone does, even those who are trying to make decisions about them.
May 8, 2008 at 12:29 pm
There is a third side to this story written by one of the so called “lost boys”
http://fldsview.blogspot.com/
On Criminal Minds the FBI TV show on profiling, the statement was made, “You cannot profile a boy under 18, they all come out as sociopaths”. I am sure my 14 year old son has wanted to strangle me and I have raised him fairly well.
The author of the blog above, plygkid claims that the lost boy tag was an invention of the antis and like the men of the gold rush, they almost always chose to do what they did. Note in his stories that the parents always went looking and some later returned. Some of the lost kid stories are pure fiction. The media eats it up and people want to believe it.
May 9, 2008 at 10:24 am
I’m not FLDS, but I have followed and read up quite a bit on it since Warren Jeffs went on the Most Wanted list. I have noticed a distinct pattern in all the information from ex-members I’ve come across that condemns the conduct of that church:
Most have a book to sell you;
None tell of convictions for the conduct condemned (unless you count Jeffs’ conviction and a few others in which the wives involved stuck by their husbands);
If any women leave the church it is always classified as an “escape”;
All teenagers and men as old as 28 YO that leave the church are classified as “being dumped on the street…”.
You overlook what each individual faces in proving their innocence of abusing their children when you group them together by saying; “They’re working overtime to present themselves as law-abiding citizens…”.
Adding together the appearance of being all warm & fuzzy, with a few comments portraying to the readers that you researched this group well, does little to hide a wholesale condemnation.
Using the acts of others, in which some or all of the individuals you’ve addressed here may not be responsible for, leaves me as a reader making judgments of YOU.
May 9, 2008 at 2:15 pm
KBP, I have also done a lot of research on the FLDS, and long before the YFZ raid.
If there is a tendency for women to say they escaped from the FLDS, or teens to say they were excommunicated, well, I’m sure they know better about their circumstances than I do. And whether someone is selling a book or not has little to do with the truth of what they say in that book; that’s dependent on good annotation and/or corroboration, and the truth tends to come out about that stuff sooner or later (see: A Million Little Pieces). In contrast, no credible, independent source I’ve seen has directly contradicted the claims of ex-FLDS members.
I am aware that each FLDS member faces a separate legal charge, but if they’re aware that abuse or abandonment is going on and have done nothing about it, then they can be held accountable for complicity. I cannot see how the general population of the YFZ ranch could be unaware that underage girls were illegally having sex with much older men.
As far as wholesale condemnation, here’s a little confession: I don’t care if people want to practice polygamy. I really don’t. If you’re a consenting adult, I could care less what you (or you all) do in your bedroom. But teenage girls who are not capable of legal consent are routinely being married off in the FLDS, and I cannot condone that. Young boys are being banished from their families just so older men can have more wives, and I can’t condone that either. If that makes me intolerant, then so be it.
You say you’ve done plenty of research on the FLDS? Fine. But if you’re going to convince me that the FLDS is just peachy, you’re going to have to provide more concrete evidence than that.
May 11, 2008 at 6:12 pm
I read KBP’s post .Maybe it’s misunderstanding. “…FLDS is just peachy” is not one of the ways I would describe his post but to question the source and motives of the allegations.Carolyn Jessops “well documentd” abuses haven’t brought charges,and also to add on to that 5 YEARS after she “escaped” her daughter(18) went back to the FLDS community.And.Why haven’t the government protectors got involved with “ALL” FLDS and not just YFZ? We can read all we want but some reasearch ALLEGES Flora Jessop was/is a liar,got pregnate by her cousin (and afterwards was “forced to marry him), a convicted felon ,crackho and a stripper.Some question the source and motives of the allegations. Just wondering have you read any “court documents” yet as to CPS’s reason for taking the childern ?
May 12, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Erika and Boise Leon, both of your comments deal with the credibility of sources, so I’ll address you together. As you say, Erika, you have to question the source and motives of the allegations, because some sources are far more credible than others. You have to look at the source’s biases and whether independent evidence supports the source’s claims.
Obviously, ex-FLDS members who report negatively on life in the sect are biased, but the difference between them and the FLDS sympathizers is that the evidence so far tends to back up the negative reports. And no, I haven’t seen the CPS documents because juvenile court records are confidential in Texas. But I don’t need to see reports to know that something is wrong when more than half of the underage teen girls from the YFZ ranch are pregnant or have already given birth.
As for Carolyn Jessop, she had everything to lose by leaving. How many women do you know who just can’t wait to be the single mother of eight children with no support from family? But she did just that, and it had to be for a good reason. And I’m not even taking into account here the numerous corroborating reports of other ex-FLDS women who also say that abuse was tolerated in the community. And sorry, but you’ll have to show me an independent, reliable source to prove that Carolyn Jessop is actually a convicted felon and a crackho.
Now contrast that with the FLDS View blogger, who has nothing but good stuff to say about the FLDS. A thorough reading of his blog reveals that he is an exiled FLDS member who got kicked out for what I can only assume is a porn habit**. He apparently wants to get back into the good graces of the other FLDS elders so that he can return to his family. Now, given that, do you really think he would say something bad about the FLDS? Sorry, this guy’s objectivity is seriously in question.
And anyway, even if you do believe everything the FLDS View blogger writes, he still admits that once in a while, underage girls do get married to much older men, and it’s almost always at the behest of fathers who beg the Prophet to do something about their daughters. Slight problem: it’s still illegal.
And Erika, you’re correct that charges are not often brought. For one thing, most ex-FLDS won’t press charges against their family members. They also may fear for their families’ safety if they do such a thing.
Also, polygamy is not actually illegal unless a man commits bigamy or marries an underage girl. Since the marriages to second and subsequent wives are “spiritual” marriages, and not legally binding, there’s no reason to prosecute them. And because there is little if any documentation of a spiritual marriage to a teenager, it’s hard for authorities to justify an investigation. And in many cases the local authorities who have jurisdiction over FLDS communities are themselves FLDS, so I doubt they’re likely to take allegations seriously.
Finally, authorities are gun-shy about investigating the FLDS because it’s a PR nightmare. Read up on the Short Creek raid. Boise Leon, you said that the Lost Boys are pure fiction that the media is eating up. I see no evidence of that. The media is not one big many-tentacled beast, and it’s folly to think so. The members of the media are as diverse as the communities they serve. What I see is a lot of stories reporting on many different angles of this issue, many of them fairly sympathetic to the FLDS. Oh, and some more homework for you: look up “hostile media effect”. It should be illuminating.
**Note: the blogger never said “porn” in so many words, but that’s my interpretation of his words: “I am a disfellowshipped former Elder from the FLDS church who left behind a sweet wife and two precious children. I was disfellowshipped from the church not because I stopped believing in the principles or the leadership of the church, but because I was mistreating my wife. [...] I did not hit my wife, or force myself upon her, or even yell at her. I insulted her, and my mothers, and my daughter, by engaging in a habit of viewing things I should not have.” So, he could mean just plain old secular media like movies, but I think he means porn because regular old movies or TV would not be explicitly insulting to the women in his life.
May 12, 2008 at 2:07 pm
I have been reluctant to chime in on this debate/conversation, but I did want to add this in response to those who question (and attack) Carolyn Jessop’s account of FLDS life in her book:
Ms. Jessop, in several interviews, stated that one big regret she had about her book was that it did not allow her ample opportunity to address all the POSITIVE aspects of plural marriage and compound life within the FLDS. To say that her account is biased is, itself, biased. Anonymously “alleging” that she is anything other than a woman who made a difficult choice does nothing but “prove” that her accuser is a slanderous coward.
Heather, you’re dead-on in your assessment that no one would precariously and thoughtlessly choose to be a single, unsupported mother to eight children when presented with ANY decent opportunity to stay put. I am an attorney here in Central KY, and I have represented SO many women (and a couple of men) who stayed with their abusers far too long, simply because the prospect of leaving the abusive home with A SINGLE CHILD was too daunting. Ms. Jessop left with EIGHT. She deserves credit, not condemnation.
May 13, 2008 at 7:53 pm
I find it rather ironic that the only views that are “credible” to you are ones that are negative toward the FLDS church.
Of course I have mostly good views toward the FLDS because they are MOSTLY good people. Flora Jessop and Carolyn Blackmore, on the other hand, are poor spiteful women who lie for a living.
Even if my former wife married to a different man, I will not change my mind about the people and the place I was born and raised.
May 13, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Pligchild, the views that are credible to me are the ones supported by good evidence. There’s no irony in that.
And by the way? This: “Flora Jessop and Carolyn Blackmore, on the other hand, are poor spiteful women who lie for a living” is not good evidence.
And as a previous commenter said, there are surely many positive aspects to life in the FLDS–social support from sisterwives, help with childcare, a generally stable home environment. Good things, all of them. But it’s irrelevant to my argument because I already said that I don’t care if consenting adults want to practice polyamory–it’s their decision. What I have a problem with is marrying off teenage girls and driving out teenage boys.
And do not tell me that the Lost Boys don’t exist–the numbers just don’t add up. And if (as you say) the boys are runaways and the parents really went looking for them, and knew that the Fischers were hiding them, then they should have filed a police report and had the Fischers arrested. If they didn’t do that (and it appears nobody has), then they must not be looking very hard. Beyond that, the police actually sent many of the boys home, but a bunch of them turned up again soon afterward and said they weren’t welcome in their homes.
From this article:
The church doesn’t argue some of the boys were shown the door, but maintains it’s no one else’s business. Rodney Parker, a church attorney, said all religions have a First Amendment right to decide who can be a member. The age of the excommunicated doesn’t matter. “There is no exception in the First Amendment for minors,” he said.
Sounds a whole lot like your own church just said they’re kicking out minors.
May 13, 2008 at 10:04 pm
I know most every one of those “lost boys” Just read my two posts:
http://fldsview.blogspot.com/2008/05/lost-and-found-boys.html
http://fldsview.blogspot.com/2008/05/few-questions-from-bored.html
And also from an FLDS mother:
http://fldsview.blogspot.com/2008/05/flds-mother.html
This is the truth. The only ones who were shown the door were those who were “Adult men” over 18. A couple of younger (16-17) ones were too, but they had older brothers who left and they were spending most of their time there anyway. But believe what you want.
“The numbers just don’t add up”
Did you know that the 26 girls added to the list were considered “underage” just by looking at them? Would you argue with the state who said you could be with your children if you go along with us and say you are underage? Or contest the fact and have your children stolen from you?
Some of the other boys may have been on a trip, would you go home to being stuffed into the CPS system?
Flora has been spouting garbage since her sister went home, and Carolyn has been spouting since her daughter went home. These women are angry, and cannot tell the truth.
http://fldsview.blogspot.com/2008/04/experts.html
I would not even be discussing this with you except for the fact that innocent little children have been kidnapped from their mothers. This is genocide, and anyone who condones it is cruel.
May 13, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Did my last post dissappear?
May 13, 2008 at 10:09 pm
If you mean the one that starts out with “I find it rather ironic that the only views…” then no, not to my knowledge. I can see it just fine, and my Dashboard says it’s still approved. Can you not see it or something? Can somebody else weigh in here and tell me if you see it? Hope WordPress isn’t going buggy on me here.
May 13, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Yep, here it is again:
I know most of the “lost boys” who were in the news personally. Just read my posts about them. And read the post from the FLDS mother. That is the truth. There were two or three who were “underage” who were shown the door, but they had older brothers who left and they spent most of their time with them anyway. The rest were “Adult men” like myself.
“The numbers just dont add up”
Did you know that 26 of the women they added to the “underage” group were considered that by looking at them? Dispite their state issued ID’s? And would you argue much with the state if they said you were underage and could stay with your children?
About calling the police, they were called many times, but the only one that made the news was Fawn. Maybe you didn’t notice what happened when my parents called the police looking for their “lost girl”?
Flora Jessop didn’t start her “career” as an expert until her sister went back home. Carolyn Blackmore didn’t start hers until her daughter went back home. These women are so angry that their relatives chose to go back to the church that they have become vicious, there is no lie they will not tell. Merril Jessop has, and does pay child support for his children. If Carolyn wanted, he would have bought her a house to live in anywhere she wanted. But she hates his guts because her daughter went home. Read my post called “Experts”
I wouln’t even be out here writing all this except for the innocent little children that suffer because of this raid, and perhaps partially because of me. I was not mistreated, and neither was Flora or Carolyn. And I want everyone to know it.
The only evidence you even want to accept as “credible” are those that correspond to your preconcieved beliefs. Maybe I have changed your mind a little, but it isn’t my fault if I haven’t.
May 13, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Aha, it was caught in the spam filter. I have the spam filter set to catch anything with three or more links in it. Saves me a lot of grief.
As to the content of that post:
The fact that underage girls are having babies is not just a matter of social workers guestimating girls’ ages; it’s a fact proven by census records recovered from the YFZ Ranch that were updated by the FLDS elders (source).
And as for the Lost Boys and the women who have spoken out against the FLDS, all I see in your links is posts from your blog with absolutely zero supporting documentation. Zilch. And I have already addressed why I cannot trust you as a credible source.
May 13, 2008 at 10:49 pm
I never said that underage girls didn’t have babies. But how many can you count? And how many were married to “old” men?
The Bishops record is one of the most sacred document in the church. The fact that it is even released to the public without anyone being charged with anything is nothing short of Nazi tactics.
May 13, 2008 at 10:57 pm
I posted your do-over of that comment because there are one or two additional points in it.
In your blog post about your sister Fawn, you say that your parents called the police multiple times, that Flora Jessop lied about Fawn being abused and whatnot, and that the CPS dropped all charges after your father was found innocent. You say that custody was returned to your parents, yet Flora continued to keep Fawn away.
Now here’s the part that is downright bizarre to me: your father’s lawyer advised him to press charges against Flora Jessop and everyone else involved, but your father forgave them all and just wanted Fawn to be happy. What?
It’s amazing how someone can be angry enough to trash Flora Jessop online, but not angry enough (or aware enough of the effect on your public image) to actually press charges against her when it’s a slam dunk.
And don’t talk to me about preconceived beliefs: I bow before evidence. Actual evidence. Your personal recollection, unsupported by any document or independent corroboration, is not evidence.
May 13, 2008 at 11:12 pm
I never said that underage girls didn’t have babies. But how many can you count? And how many were married to “old” men?
No, you implied that women who are over 18 lied about being underage just so they could stay with their children. Meaning what, that there weren’t really underage mothers? Glad we cleared that up.
As for the age of their husbands:
Texas officials focused on five girls who conceived when they were 15 or 16, all of whom then gave birth recently when they were 16 or 17. According to the bishop’s record, three of those teenagers are in plural relationships with men who are 28, 35 and 40. One teenager, who is pregnant, is not listed on the records. And one is shown as being in a monogamous marriage to a 22-year-old man. (source)
The husbands aren’t exactly grandpas, but they don’t exactly qualify for the Romeo and Juliet clause either.
And I’m terribly sorry that the Bishop’s record is sacred, but it’s evidence. As far as the Nazi comment, please try not to Godwin yourself. It’s just not the done thing.
May 15, 2008 at 5:45 am
I didn’t mean to dissappear from the conversation, but I am working long hours with little sleep.
I apologize for interfereing with your desire to vilify a church, I thought maybe you were open to the other side of the story. This will be my last word on your blog. I don’t know what evidence or documentation you need to believe me, but I don’t think you want to anyway.
Here is the list from the FLDS website showing the census of those being held in captivity:
http://www.captivefldschildren.org/Counts.php
I do not know about the quantity of the underage girls marrying adults on the ranch, I only can say that the two girls in my life that I saw getting married at 15 and 14 were monogomous marriages to young men under 20, and they were very consentual. I can also say that my parents only let one of my sisters get married under 18. If there was three, as the “evidence” that has been entered into the court of public opinion and not any other court shows (not protected as it should be in America), there are three men who should be arrested and charged, yet they still have not. Until 2005 Texas law allowed 16 year olds to get married, but I don’t know what they would be charged with now.
As far as my father is concerned, he is very kind and has not a spiteful bone in his body. He wanted to see Fawn safe, and pressing charges against Flora would have done nothing for Fawn. Fawn was hiding from her parents, and we Flora was helping. Flora and Joni held a press conference within hours of the state giving my parents back custody of Fawn, telling the whole world that CPS would not “protect” Fawn from her parents and Fawn had fled from her “safe house” in Phoenix. The court in Phoenix actually ordered Flora to stay away from Fawn. Flora said on camera that she had no idea where Fawn was. It was when she turned up at Joni’s house in Utah a few weeks later that Fawn contacted her mother and relieved the situation as far as her parents were concerned. This was over 5 years ago.
I am not angry with Flora, I have no desire to “trash” her and never did. In fact I think it “might” be credible that she was molested when she was young. That is the only thing I did not find evidence against. Her eldest brother was excommunicated a long time ago and I don’t know why. Her father was excommunicated about 8 years ago too and I don’t know why. It his her “expert” advice to Texas and the horrid campaign of torturing children that has prompted me to write my blog. It wasn’t easy, because I actually feel sorry for her.
The “done” thing was called Nazi-ish by some of the state workers themselves.
http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_9238520 (the reports are PFD’s linked from there)
Farewell
May 15, 2008 at 9:42 pm
*tiny sigh*
I am very open to hearing other viewpoints. But if you want me to believe them, you really have to give me some kind of evidence. Other sources from people previously unassociated with the FLDS. Police records. Articles from a major newspaper confirming that the Lost Boys safehouse is a really just Party Central for rebellious teenagers, for instance. I don’t know how I can say this more plainly. You are not an independent witness and you have a lot to gain from saying good things about the FLDS, therefore, someone who is not an FLDS sympathizer needs to back you up. I am not asking such a huge thing here.
I’m not sure what you want to accomplish with the link to the census of FLDS people who were removed, but I quoted that very list in my original blog post, so it’s not exactly damning.
As far as young teenage girls getting married, you say that the 14- and 15-year-old girls you saw getting married were very consenting. I’m glad they were happy with it and all, but that does not change the fact that it is illegal. They cannot legally consent to marriage. At all.
What you say about your sister is confusing. You say that pressing charges against Flora Jessop to get Fawn back would have done no good, and that your father just wanted her to be safe. If he felt she was safe without any parental guidance, then why all the calls to the police about her running away to hang out at the Lost Boys “party house”?
Moreover, if (a big if) Flora Jessop was spreading lies about your entire community and kidnapping teenagers, then that’s more than big-hearted of your father to forgive–that’s absurdly short-sighted. If you have just cause to prosecute but don’t do it, don’t be surprised if she continues to do exactly what she has been doing. The fact that Flora Jessop has not been successfully prosecuted for any of the things you accuse her of, much less slander or libel, tells me a great deal about the dearth of evidence your community has to present.
And if you have no desire to “trash” Flora, then you might want to reconsider some of your statements, because you have well and truly trashed her with comments such as these:
Flora Jessop and Carolyn Blackmore, on the other hand, are poor spiteful women who lie for a living.
Flora has been spouting garbage since her sister went home, and Carolyn has been spouting since her daughter went home. These women are angry, and cannot tell the truth.
These women are so angry that their relatives chose to go back to the church that they have become vicious, there is no lie they will not tell.
Flora Jessop kidnapped my sister. She knew it and concocted a great big story about imminent forced marriage, abuse by her father, and blood atonement.
She became a bar dancer and she had a daughter by one of her customers. But that didn’t pay as good as what she does now; telling whoppers.
I’d hate to have you feel sorry for me the way you feel sorry for Flora Jessop.
Finally, in regards to the comparisons to Nazi concentration camps that mental health workers made in their reports:
I have said from the beginning that this whole thing was poorly handled. Horribly handled, even. It’s a bad idea to separate young children from mothers if the fathers are the ones who are suspected of abuse. If the state felt they absolutely had to do something drastic (and I don’t think “drastic” was even remotely necessary), then they should have made sure the men were removed from the ranch and left the women and children there. The local court system and foster care network are totally inadequate to deal with a case of this scope in any kind of timely manner, which is also likely the reason no charges have been filed yet.
While Nazi Germany comparisons are way, way over the top, there is still no excuse for the way the FLDS women and children have been treated. It’s outrageous. Unconscionable.
At the same time, though, evidence strongly supports the existence of the Lost Boys, and therefore—as I said in the original blog post—I can’t be sorry that an investigation is taking place, no matter how badly it’s been handled. I’m sure those teenage boys were pretty upset about being taken away from their families too, and not by any heartless state agency, but because their families rejected them on the orders of the Prophet.
May 16, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Well, I am a liar too. I came back. And this time instead of just reading the comments of your blog, I read the original post.
Gideon Barlow is Dan Barlow’s youngest son. Dan Barlow was the Mayor of Colorado City, and is now a “lost boy” too. Gideon is a good friend of my nephew who he took off with. They lived with my “lost boy” brother in Salt Lake. I am not sure but I think they both now live with Joni and Carl John (my brother), and have been either “emancipated” or their parents have given custody of them to Joni. I do not know his mother, but my sister (mother of his friend) talks to her son whenever he wants.
The 14 year old girl I saw get married had an affair with her boyfriend a year before. The 15 year old girl I saw get married was not illegal. (Yet, as marriage is getting to be more and more of a crime to people)
Flora’s first and last kidnapping was of my sister and her friend. Flora’s own foundation in St George abandoned her when they saw them on TV. Contact Jay Beswick and Bob Curran. (They may be back now, as no charges were ever filed)
My father’s heart is much bigger than mine, as I was on the side of his lawyer. Is the statute of limitations up yet, and can I press charges myself? (Now it would be a “Flora-esqe” publicity stunt)
This is actually part of the FLDS religion “unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also” That is the reason my father didn’t press charges. He knew Fawn wanted to go party with her brothers, and he only wanted her safe, when he found she was at Carl’s house and not with her boyfriend, he stopped worrying. I admit my father is a much better man than I.